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Jesus is the personal Memra in Old Testament times

Memra introduction

The Greek word 'logus' Strong's 3056, is equivalent to the Hebrew word 'dabar' Strong's 1697, according to Jeff Benner from Ancient Hebrew Research Center.

The 'dabar' is a symbol of the 'memra', a Jewish concept in which a heavenly Being is symbolized as the Agent of Creation, Salvation, Redemption and Communication. Many Jews understood when GOD talked face to face with man, this was done through the 'memra'.

The Jews could not understrand how GOD talked face to face with man, and not destroy them.

  • Ge 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel:
  • for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.

  • Ex 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face:
  • for there shall no man see me, and live.

  • Jg 6:22.. Gideon said, Alas, O Lord GOD! for because I have seen
  • an messenger(malak) of the LORD face to face.

  • Isa 6:5 � Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips,
  • and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD (YHWH) of hosts.

    So how were these people able to survive seeing glorious power face to face? The Jews explain this using the 'memra', a Personal Agent of the Father. In all these examples, there is not a single clue to how these people saw such glory face to face and lived...Normally a reference to a medium such as the Holy Spirit is referred to, but no such reference is made. However there is some evidence that the Agent of glory who appeared to these people, was Jesus, the 'memra' for His heavenly Father, possibly acting as a 'medium'...ie using the Father's power, not His own, to change the flow of power of glory, so ordinary humans could endure such glory. If this is true, we have two comforters and two mediums, at least in the Old Testament. In the New Testament, where Jesus lays down an attribute of eternity to pay for sinners of eternity, Ex 21:24; Jesus loses the ability to become a 'medium' and the Holy Spirit becomes the sole 'medium' agency for heavenly flow of power. This is just a theory of faith, at this stage, like all our theories of faith, they are subject to change as we have hardly begun to study Scripture at any depth or wisdom...May GOD help us to be but amazed at the mysteries of GOD.

    Memra examples

    Here are some examples of the WORD 'dabar' as symbols of 'memra', the Personal Agency of the Father.

  • Ps 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right; and all his works are done in truth.
  • 5 He loveth righteousness and judgment: the earth is full of the goodness of the LORD.
  • 6 By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.

    Here we see a glimpse of the "WORD" associated in power as truth, adminstrated by the Holy Spirit. 'By "WORD" of YHWH were the heavens made', making the Personal Agency, a symbol of the "WORD" and "YHWH".

  • Ps 147:15 He sendeth forth his commandment (memra) upon earth: his word (dabar)runneth very swiftly.

    The "WORD" sends His speech of words (memra) and His words (dabar) run swiftly. Other verses tell us the Father's flow via the Holy Spirit, is a co-operative effort, for all three members of the Family Elohiym in heaven, created our universe.

  • Isa 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

  • 11 So shall my word (dabar) be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    The "WORD" is a simile to "SEED" and 'water' which makes the seed grows. This is yet another typology of Jesus as the "WORD" and the 3,500 Seed Promises in Scripture ready to grow at your command through prayer. Claim a Scripture promise, and understand this "WORD" or memra growing in your heart.

  • De 32:2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech (memra)shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:

    Other Scriptures tells us we Christians grow as plants, as trees by the water of life. The "WORD" falls uppon us a rain, symbols of the Holy Spirit, who channel His WORD's upon us.

  • Ps 12:6 The words (memra) of the LORD are pure words (memra): as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

    Of the Father, Son or Holy Spirit, which Strong Authority has been placed in a furnace over and over again, handling the tribulation of the word of missing (sin) ? Only Jesus has experienced this furnace in the flesh. This is certainly true at Gethsame. But what about other furnace stories? Are they not also typologies of Jesus?

  • Da 3:24 Then Nebuchadnezzar said.....Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
  • 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
  • 26 Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye servants of the most high God,

    This ' fourth man' King Nebuchadnezzar saw is not an angel, because later he calls this Son of Elohiym, a symbol of their servants who are friends of the Most high Elohiym, making this 'fourth man' a Son of the Most High. This fourth 'man' can only be Jesus, the Son of the Father.

  • Ps 119:11 � Thy word (memra) have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

    Whom do we go to, that missing might not be against thee? Jesus, the Memra.

  • Ps 119:41 � VAU. Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, even thy salvation, according to thy word.(memra)

    A reference that YHWH is thy salvation (Yeshua) is also Personal 'memra'.

  • 42 So shall I have wherewith to answer him that reproacheth me: for I trust in thy word (dabar).

  • Ps 119:123 � Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word (memra) of thy righteousness.

    Thy salvation (Yeshua) empowers our righteousness.

  • Ps 119:154 Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word. (memra)

    The Holy Spirit quickens our power in Jesus, our Memra (WORD).

  • Ps 147:15 He sendeth forth his commandment upon earth: his word (memra) runneth very swiftly.

  • Pr 30:5 Every word (memra) of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

    Notice the Memra is associated closely with the heavenly Father... This does not suggest the Father is the WORD, or the Memra, but they are closely one of unity.

    Does not John say this also ?

    Joh 1:1� In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    The WORD or Memra, was GOD...Jesus took to earth, His Father's words, not His own...indeed love is a co-operative effort, a system of members in a Family that love, for Scripture has no concept of self-love or self. Love is not something one can do alone either, love is relational. Thus we find the heavenly Elohiym is relational love.

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