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Faith study, amen, proof New Testament orginally written in Hebrew, Lord's Prayer,

HYPOTHESIS: What does Faith mean?

Q:(2) amen

PICTURE:

The pictograph reads "The strong flow over the nations". Strong's 543

This is the "noun" form meaning "a completed action of support". There is also a "verb" form meaning "support that is incomplete", both noun and verb forms have the same meaning, only differences in action.

DISCUSSION: Some contexts:-

Context(1) : In this passage the words are spoken already from the LORD and the people complete the action by supporting those words.

Nu 5:22 And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen.

Here we see the family concept of "faith" used to support certain words and the consequences of these words, by women saying "amen" and "amen". Sadly in English translations we assume "amen" means "so be it", but the term means "I give my firm support to those words".

Context(2) : Consider the whole of Psalm 41, a poetry prayer written in the Holy Writings, showing "support":

Ps 41:1 .. the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.

Here the LORD supports us with actions of His power..

Ps 41:2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive;..

Again the LORD gives us ongoing life..

Ps 41:3 The LORD will strengthen him upon the bed of languishing:..

The LORD supports us when we are sick..

Ps 41:4 I said, LORD, be merciful unto me: heal my soul; for I have sinned against thee.

The speaker here in his prayer, is not praying about transgressions, but about "chata" the Hebrew word for "missing", translated here as "sinning" against thee. The prayer here is to restore the "broken relationship" with the LORD.

I will support you O LORD, because you support me.

Ps 41:9 Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

Jesus trusts all who come to Him, those who eat of His words, but sadly many of us, including Judas, often do not support Jesus at all, but betray His power flow.

Ps 41:13 Blessed be the LORD God of Israel from everlasting, and to everlasting. Amen, and Amen. (KJV)

Here at the conclusion of this prayer of David we see the word Amen, showing that David is willing to "support the LORD Jesus and His words".

The reason why the "noun" form of "amen" is at the end of the passage is because the "noun" means the action is completed, the Lord is demonstrating His support for us, and the man is responding with "support" in return.

Is the reader beginning to see how "Faith" is, as a concept?

Context(3) : In this passage we see Elohiym of support..

Isa 65:16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. (KJV)

Now we have a strange translation because "amen" is written as a context with "elohiym" or GOD.

Isa 65:16 That he who blesses in the earth shall bless in the Elohiym of support; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the Elohiym of support; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes. (Ancient Hebrew)

We have to be consistent in the use of "amen" as with "man", the Family words of Faith, all have the idea of "support".

Jer 28:6 Even the prophet Jeremiah said, Amen: the LORD do so: the LORD perform thy words which thou hast prophesied,

Translated correctly, notice Jeremiah says "God will support us with His words of prophecy and do what He says He will do" by saying "Amen".

So if GOD will willing to suppport us, are we willing to support GOD with His words? and with our own words?

That is the theme of "faith" coming so far from our studies.

Context(4) : The NT in Hebrew.

If the reader wants proof the NT was orginally written in Hebrew, why doesn't the Greek have it's own words for meanings? Here we see the Greek word spelled "amen" is the same Hebrew word spelled "amen", thus the Greek is using a Hebrew expression because the Greek is a translation of the Hebrew.

So we must revert back to a Hebrew understanding in the New Testament, if we wish to truly understand Jesus words in His latter rains.

Mt 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Here is the first use of the Hebrew word "amen" used in a Greek sentence in the NT, notice poorly translated by the KJV.

Mt 5:18 For I support what I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Notice Jesus is suppporting His Father's words, when He adds His own words of meanings to them. Jesus does not destroy the former rains of teachings in the OT, but supports those teachings with a fresh view of those teachings, in person.

Mt 6:16 � Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. VerilyI say unto you, They have their reward. (KJV)

It's seems the KJV does not know what to do with some contexts.

Mt 6:16 � Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Such is their support, I say unto you, They have their reward. (Ancient Hebrew)

Notice what "faith" is...it's not a belief, nor some abstract concept...when the so called believers of YHWH, fast, they pretend to support YHWH by fasting ... how do we know their fasting is fake? Because if you support GOD by fasting, than GOD supports you back with a stronger flow of His power through you. But if you fast to get mankind's attention, you are NOT supporting GOD at all, and as Jesus says, they have their reward already, from men. This is the only consistent meaning for "faith", the concept of "support".

Mt 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, verily "but from your support," I say unto you, I know you not.

What is sad here is the foolish virgins were also believers and had the Holy Spirit, but they ran out of extra oil, they did not think the Lord would take so long in coming. It is more likely the foolish virgins did not support Jesus words enough, to prepare for His tarrying and coming.

Notice these verses in the former rains of Jesus' teachings:-

Hab 2:3 For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry. 4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith (emuwnah) "support".

The words of Jesus say He will tarry, but we are to wait for Him, and live by His support which supports us.

Possibly the reason why so many foolish virgins are asleep is because they do not know how to support Jesus, or they have stopped supporting Jesus because His coming is taking too long.

Mt 26:34 Jesus said unto him, Verily "such is your support", I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. 35 Peter said unto him, Though I should die with thee, yet will I not deny thee. Likewise also said all the disciples.

Peter was speaking his own words, using his own "baal" master powers of self, he did not support Jesus, using Jesus words that promise Divine power, and this is why Peter failed that very night. So did all the disciples. Human words have no real power. Only by supporting God's words, which promise power, do claiming those words bring us a divine relationship that promises us all things.

Context (5) : In this next passage, we have two different Greek words, or two different Hebrew words, that are related to "Faith", the idea of "support".

Joh 1:50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest "ye support me" thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. 51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily "such your support, supports me", I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Philip did not just believe Jesus, when He saw Jesus, speaking prophecy, Philip spoke words of support, saying "Rabbi you are the Son of God". And it is because of this marvelous support that Jesus marvels at Philip's answer.

Is the reader beginning to see how "Faith" is, as a concept?

Context (6) : In this next passage, we have two different Greek words, or two different Hebrew words, that are related to "Faith", the idea of "support".

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily "such is your support, your support", , I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

  • 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
  • 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, "such is your support, your support" I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
  • 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
  • 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
  • 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
  • 9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
  • 10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
  • 11 Verily, verily,`"such is your support, your support," I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
  • 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe "support me" not, how shall ye believe "support me" , if I tell you of heavenly things?

    Nicodemus could NOT support Jesus words, because he did not know how to. Nicodemus was stuck in his earthly "baal master powers of self" where only the "man made ideas" dwell. Jesus wanted Nicodemus to support Jesus' words into the unknown power of the Divine, beyond human powers.

    It is important not to be like Nicodemus and ask "how can these things be"?, because when we support God's words so that Divine power flows from their promise, we are not to ask "how and why", but with child like humility accept that such power flow happens because we support God's words. Why we support the flow of electricity but we do not know how or why electricity flows?

    Claim the prayer promises of power from words you quote, thank God for the promises in those words, and walk away with a burning that the flow will come to pass. This is the science of support.

    Context (7) : Here we consider Jesus, who supports us.

    Re 3:14 � And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

    Let's translate these two Greek words with the Hebrew meaning of support, they are related words, meaning support.

    Re 3:14 � And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Supporter, the supporting true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

    Why does Jesus dislike the last church of the end of time? Because the end time church has "knowledge" but such members of the churches do not "support Jesus with His word promises of power", thus Jesus does not flow consistently in their lives. The only consistent flow in us is our "Baal Master powers of Self".

    So if you mix the flow of Jesus, and our Baal master powers of self togther, what kind of flow do we get? A lukewarm flow of burning. The kind Peter experienced until He turned yet again more deeply to Jesus, and hopped over to supporting His words of power.

    1Co 3:1 � And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal (basar) "fleshy", even as unto babes in Christ.

    The Greek word "sarkikos" is a translated word from the Hebrew word "basar" meaning "fleshy", and when we come to Jesus as a beginner, we come in our fleshy nature using our own Baal master powers of self. God accepts this condition, and so we need a change in where our relationship to God gets it's powers from.

    1Co 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

  • 9 For we are labourers together with God:

    Notice we labour with GOD, by supporting God's words of promised power.

    1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire;..

    Our power flow of burning must come from GOD, who is a burning power, thus we become "fire proof" living with an eternal burning for eternity. Only as we support GOD and His words of promised power, does this burning burn within us, and we experience the joy of salvation.

    Context (8) : The Lord's Prayer

    Is the LORD's Prayer, an example of support? Did Jesus support His Father's OT words?

    Notice when Jesus taught His disciples to pray, Jesus prays by supporting His Father's words of promised power:-

    Jesus does not quote the OT writings directly, but He does quote the truths from those writings:-

    A common way to identify the Father, is to look up "father" (ab), which is rare, or "Eloah", a Hebrew reference to a "father like god", or "Most High", a reference to the Father, or "He who sits betweens the heavenly cherubs". The term "YHWH" is a community reference, as is "Elohiym" a community reference.

    Lu 11:2 And Jesus said unto them, When ye pray, say, (1) Our Father (ab) which art in heaven (shamayim),

  • Ge 49:25 Even by the God (el) "Strong Authority" of thy father (ab) "father", who shall help thee; and by the Almighty(shadday), who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven (shamayim) above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
  • Job 22:12 Is not God (Eloah) "the Father" in the height of heaven (shamayim) ?

    (2) Hallowed (qodesh) be thy (ab) name (shem).

  • Ex 3:15 And God (elohiym) said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD (YHWH) God (elohiym) of your fathers (ab), the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name (shem) for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.
  • Ps 68:5 A father (ab) "reference to elohiym our father" of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God (elohiym) in his holy (qodesh) habitation.

  • Ps 99:1 � The LORD (Father-YHWH) reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims (cherubs) "angels" ; let the earth be moved.
  • 2 The LORD (Father-YHWH) is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people.
  • 3 Let them praise thy great and terrible name (shem); for it is holy (qodesh).

    Lu 11:2 (3) Thy kingdom (malkuwth) come.

  • Ps 103:19 � The LORD (YHWH) hath prepared his throne in the heavens; and his kingdom (malkuwth) ruleth over all.
  • Ps 103:13 Like as a father (ab) pitieth his children, so the LORD (Father-YHWH) pitieth them that fear him.

    Lu 11:2 (4) Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.

    The Greek word "thelema" 2307, translated "will", is probably according to Jeff Benner, the Hebrew word "ratsown" 7522, meaning "self will". What is amazing is the way Jesus quotes "words of support" to His heavenly Father:-

  • Ex 28:38 ... and it shall be always upon his forehead (Aaron's) , that they may be accepted (ratsown) before the LORD.
  • De 33:16 .. and for the good will (ratsown) of him (Elohiym) that dwelt in the bush
  • Ezr 10:11 Now therefore make confession unto the LORD (YHWH) God (elohiym) of your fathers (ab), and do his pleasure (ratsown) : and separate yourselves from the people of the land, and from the strange wives.
  • Ps 69:13 � But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O LORD (YHWH), in an acceptable (ratsown) time: O God (elohiym), in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy salvation (yesha).

    (5) Lu 11:3 Give us day by day our daily bread (lechem).

  • Isa 55:10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread (lechem) to the eater:
  • 11 So shall my word (dabar) be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
  • 12 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.

    Notice in these words Jesus quotes, Jesus acknowledges the "Father's bread of heaven" is a simile of His words, that He wrote for us, and we eat them, thanking the Father for our daily bread, that comes with promised power. These words do not come and go as an empty void, but they grow in us with a joy of power, that the "trees of the community forest" clap their hands, praising the "Lord of trees".

    (6) Lu 11:4 And forgive(nasa) us our sins (chataah) ; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.

    Jeff Benner has numerous Hebrew words that the Greek word "forgive" might have been. The Author likes "nasa" 5375, to "lift away our guilt" and "salah" 5545, to "forgive or pardon". The Greek word for "sins" here is the Hebrew word "chataah" meaning "sin-offerings", a missing the believer has confessed unto our Sin Bearer, Yeshua.

  • Ge 50:17 So shall ye say unto Joseph, Forgive (nasa) , I pray thee now, the trespass (pesha) of thy brethren, and their sin (chataah) ; for they did unto thee evil: and now, we pray thee, forgive (nasa) the trespass of the servants of the God (elohiym) of thy father (ab).
  • Ex 32:32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive (nasa)their sin (chataah) --;
  • 1Ki 8:36 Then hear thou in heaven (shamayim), and forgive (calach) the sin (chataah) of thy servants,

    (7) And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

    Ps 140:1 Deliver me, O LORD(Father-YHWH), from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man;

    Notice throughout the Lord's Prayer, Jesus is quoting thoughts and themes, and even holy writing phrases in His words of prayer. In other words, Jesus is supporting His Father's words, by quoting them and thanking the Father for His promised flow of Power. Shalom

    Update January 2019 Some have relayed to me that praying words already written as prayers is wrong, and similar to some Church Assemblies already. Having not experienced other Church Assemblies, the Author cannot answer this query.

    But if you look at the Lord's Prayer of praying, while Jesus supports His Father's words, Jesus does not pray that same sentences these words are contained in. In other words, if you know correctly the words that contain support and promise power flow, you simply pray them in different contexts using your own need for praying. This seems to be the idea of training, the Author is coming up with from investigating the prayers of David in the Scriptures.

    If readers wish to learn more about deeper, more powerful concepts of praying, see the training the Author is experiencing in his own personal investigation of David's prayers.

    Next we consider the "verb form" of "amen", which is commonly translated as "believe".

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