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SOP and the Scriptural understanding of rock

Q3: SOP and the Scriptures understanding of rock

HYPOTHESIS: How does SOP view the two Rocks in Scripture, the 'cela' rock and the 'tsuwr' rock ?

INTRODUCTION: This study looks at something unheard in the Seventh Day Adventist literature. Indeed there are few websites on the Internet that consider the 'cela' of Jesus and the 'tsuwr' rock of the Father. But Scripture does consistently. How does SOP handle these two concepts?

1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

  • 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

    Paul writes Jesus was a Rock that followed Israel along with GOD (The Elohiym Family power that flows). Do we have a concept of two rocks that were present with Israel ? Yes we do.

    Nu 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock 'cela' twice:

  • Ex 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock 'tsuwr' in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock 'tsuwr',..

    So Scripture says two rocks followed Israel as they journeyed, what does SOP say about this ?

    METHOD: Just a few SOP is shown, just to give the reader a feel for the theme at hand.

    CONCLUSION: It may be difficult for the reader to see a consistent use of Scripture quoted by SOP, matching "cela" rock verses to Jesus, and "tsuwr" rock verses to the Father. However SOP does agree with Scripture even with this "rock theme", as the discussion shows. If more SOP was studied, we might be able to appreciate the Father's presence with Jesus in the Old Testament times.

    DISCUSSION: The presentation of SOP and comments are below:

    The two rocks..

    It was Christ, by the power of His word, that caused the refreshing stream to flow for Israel. "They drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." 1 Corinthians 10:4. He was the source of all temporal as well as spiritual blessings. Christ, the true Rock, was with them in all their wanderings. "They thirsted not when He led them through the deserts: He caused the waters to flow out of the rock �tsuwr� for them; He clave the rock �tsuwr� also, and the waters gushed out." "They ran in the dry places like a river." Isaiah 48:21; Psalm 105:41. {PP 411.2}

    So how does Scripture measure by this ?

    Isa 48:21 And they thirsted not when he led them through the deserts: he caused the waters to flow out of the rock �tsuwr� for them: he clave the rock �tsuwr� also, and the waters gushed out

    Hard to identify who "he" is in this verse?

    Ps 105:41 He opened the rock �tsuwr�, and the waters gushed out; they ran in the dry places like a river.

    Hard to identify who "he" is in this verse?

    SOP tells us the 'he' in these verses is Jesus, who opens up the Father rock, from which water flows...makes sense...if the Father YHWH is the only members of GOD as some claim, how does a Father YHWH open Himself for water to flow out ? Makes for a strange context...especially when there are two rocks in Scripture, not one.

    The smitten rock was a figure of Christ, and through this symbol the most precious spiritual truths are taught. As the life-giving waters flowed from the smitten rock, so from Christ, "smitten of God," "wounded for our transgressions," "bruised for our iniquities" (Isaiah 53:4, 5), the stream of salvation flows for a lost race. {PP 411.3}

    Earlier in this study we see the Father rock and the Jesus rock, were both smitten, before water gushed out.

    Nu 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock 'cela' twice:

  • Ex 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock 'tsuwr' in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock 'tsuwr',..

    Strangely enough SOP pens this concept..

  • 'the smitten rock as a figure of Christ' 'smitten of God'...

    do we catch the idea that the Father was as smitten as His Son was ?

    The same beautiful and expressive figures are carried throughout the Bible. Centuries before the advent of Christ, Moses pointed to Him as the rock of Israel's salvation (Deuteronomy 32:15); . {PP 412.3} De 32:15 � But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness; then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock �tsuwr� of his salvation.

    Notice the context of Scripture:-

    De 32:9 For the LORD'S portion is his people;

    De 32:11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings:

    De 32:12 So the LORD alone did lead him,

    The Holy Spirit is a symbol here because the Hebrew word hovering or fluttering is used only three times in Scripture OT. Jesus YHWH leads His people Israel.

    De 32:13 He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock 'cela', and oil out of the flinty rock 'tsuwr';

  • De 32:15 .. then Israel (he) forsook God (Eloah The heavenly Father) which made him, and lightly esteemed the rock �tsuwr� of his salvation (yeshua) .

    Notice Jesus concludes with His Father, the 'tsuwr' rock of Jesus salvation as Yeshua. Does SOP say all this simply and correctly ? Yes SOP does.

    the psalmist sang of Him as "my Redeemer," "the rock of my strength," "the rock that is higher than I," "a rock of habitation," "rock of my heart," "rock of my refuge." In David's song His grace is pictured also as the cool, "still waters," amid green pastures, beside which the heavenly Shepherd leads His flock. Again, "Thou shalt make them," he says, "drink of the river of Thy pleasures. For with Thee is the fountain of life." Psalm 19:14; 62:7; Psalm 61:2; 71:3 (margin); 73:26 (margin); 94:22; 23:2; 36:8, 9. And the wise man declares, "The wellspring of wisdom [is] as a flowing brook." Proverbs 18:4. To Jeremiah, Christ is "the fountain of living waters;" to Zechariah, "a fountain opened . . . for sin and for uncleanness." Jeremiah 2:13; Zechariah 13:1. {PP 413.1}

    Notice the Scripture SOP quotes:-

    Ps 62:7 In God is my salvation (Yeshua) and my glory: the rock �tsuwr� of my strength, and my refuge, is in God

    Ps 61:2 From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to the rock �tsuwr� that is higher than I.

    Ps 94:22 But the LORD is my defence; and my God is the rock �tsuwr� of my refuge.

    Jer 2:13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

    Pr 18:4 � The words of a man's mouth are as deep waters, and the wellspring of wisdom as a flowing brook.

    Zec 13:1 � In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

    Isa 32:2 And a man shall be as an hiding place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest; as rivers of water in a dry place, as the shadow of a great rock �cela� in a weary land.

    At first glance it seems confusing, but we need to understand, love is not ever independent, we do not love is the reaction of Beings together within a Family generator.. A system of salvation, a system of love and a system of a heavenly flow is recorded here, this flow of love is done by Jesus YHWH alone, as Scripture records. But as we see, this does does not involve a single heavenly Being. The flow of the Father empowers the Son YHWH, who expresses this flow among His people Israel via the Holy Spirit, is the only way these verses make sense.

    Ge 49:18 I have waited for thy salvation "y@shuw`ah", O LORD "YHWH".

    How you spell Hebrew is up to you, but salvation "y@shuw`ah", can also be spelled as "Yeshua" or "Yasha" or "Jesus (Greek spelling)". Every verse in the OT that refers to salvation is a simile of Jesus, the Cela Rock of Ages, who stands upon the Tsuwr Rock, His Father. They were both involved in Israel's redemption. But this was not two flows of power, but a single flow who followed them, a power from the Father, through His Son, imparted to Israel by the Holy Spirit.

    Isa 43:11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

    Jesus-YHWH is our only Yasha, our Yeshua, our Saviour.

    For more, see further studies on the Jesus Rock and Father Rock, as seen by Ellen White.

    On the next webpage, we look at how does SOP view "sin" as "sin-offering".

    SOP & rock theme

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