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Results for self

(1) master of self Baal

(2) self exaltation

(3) selfishness

(4) Master powers of self

(5) The study of bold; self; or indulgent people

(6) Study of fill with self

(7) Self-indulgent are filled

(8) Study of high; self or indulgence

(9) Paul preaches lowing himself

(10) lowering yourself before others

(11) Self indulgent people have no need of Jesus

(12) Study of unclean or self-indulgence

(13) Introducing self indulgance

(14) Diseases caused by self indulgance

(15) Self powered person

(16) Lawlessness or self indulgance

(17) Self serving or self indulgance

(18) The SELF-POWERED principle spoiling salvation

(19) One cannot self love

(20) Can the Heavenly Father exist by Himself?

(21) One cannot self love

(22) Is 'Self-love' Biblical?

(23) our selfishness

(24) learning to avoid self or Master of Self

(25) Breath of salvation with self subdued

(26) The Father sacrificed Himself in Christ

(27) self

(28) self abuse

Gethsemane, Jesus suffering, Heavenly Father and Mother suffers with their Son

Q67: 74. Gethsemane

Show the Desire of Ages is inspired..

(1) What is sin all about?

He went a little distance from them--not so far but that they could both see and hear Him--and fellprostrate upon the ground. He felt that by sin He was being separated from His Father. The gulf was sobroad, so black, so deep, that His spirit shuddered before it. This agony He must not exert His divinepower to escape. As man He must suffer the consequences of man's sin. As man He must endure thewrath of God against transgression.

Sin is the Hebrew word "chata" and means "missing", and thus sin is all about missing our heavenly Father: being separated by our heavenly Father, a broken relatonship.

With the issues of the conflict before Him, Christ's soul was filled withdread of separation from God. Satan told Him that if He became the surety for a sinful world, theseparation would be eternal. He would be identified with Satan's kingdom, and would nevermore beone with God.

Where does Scripture say the separation is eternal?

Ex 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

This is the only Holy Writing that says if mischief follows, (context of an enemy causing miscarriage in the womb of mankind), ye shall exchange life for life, or soul for soul, or 'living energy' for 'living energy'.

Behold Him contemplating the price to be paid for the human soul. In His agony He clings to the coldground, as if to prevent Himself from being drawn farther from God. The chilling dew of night fallsupon His prostrate form, but He heeds it not. From His pale lips comes the bitter cry, "O My Father, ifit be possible, let this cup pass from Me."

Jesus prays to Elohiym, and specifically cries out "O My Father.."

Consider the analogy: the first twin sons born to Eve, in Hebrew called "chayah" or "ongoing living".The first is called "I have gotten YHWH" becomes one disturbed by mischief from Satan, and dies forever; the second son Abel is killed but accepts Jesus as His saviour who exchanges His soul for the sinner's consequence of eternal separation.One is of YHWH but dies, the second dies but lives. And the mischief of Satan begins from the womb of Eve.

The poetry analogies and similes of the Bible is both playful and profound.

Jesus-YHWH becomes the only one born "twin", with "two relationships", one dies forever for sinning, (his relationship to His Father as the breath of life as ordinary humans have in their humanity) the other reins in it's place, (Jesus divine relationship with Elohiym, since Jesus is also of Elohiym as a kind; but now some of the divine functions of Jesus are cumbered with His humanity, making the cost of sacrifice eternal.The womb of the Holy Spirit is pictured here as Eve, and Satan comes with mischhief upon the future souls of mankind born a little lower than Elohiym.

The Spirit of Prophecy says ...

But God suffered with His Son. Angels beheld the Saviour's agony. They saw their Lord enclosed bylegions of satanic forces, His nature weighed down with a shuddering, mysterious dread. There wassilence in heaven. No harp was touched. Could mortals have viewed the amazement of the angelic hostas in silent grief they watched the Father separating His beams of light, love, and glory from Hisbelove d Son, they would better understand how offensive in His sight is sin.

If Ellen White knew that Elohiym means "Father, Son and Holy Spirit" why does she write

  • "But God suffered with His Son".

    This is proof the SOP is writing English using Hebrew style. In the presence of community, which is what "Elohiym" means, the masculine pronoun "His" is used....

    But God suffered with their Son.

    Some one writing English in English style would write the sentence using "their".

  • No traces of His recent agony were visible as Jesus stepped forth to meet His betrayer. Standing inadvance of His disciples He said, "Whom seek ye?" They answered, "Jesus of Nazareth." Jesus replied,"I am He." As these words were spoken, the angel who had lately ministered to Jesus moved betweenHim and the mob. A divine light illuminated the Saviour's face, and a dovelike form overshadowedHim. In the presence of this divine glory, the murderous throng could not stand for a moment. Theystaggered back. Priests, elders, soldiers, and even Judas, fell as dead men to the ground.

    There is a hint the power of the Holy Spirit was with their Son as well as He suffered in Gethsemane.

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    Turning to the priests and elders, Christ fixed upon them His searching glance. The words He spokethey would never forget as long as life should last. They were as the sharp arrows of the Almighty.

    The exact phrase "sharp arrows of the Almighty" does not exist in Scripture, but "arrows of the Almighty" does.

    Job 6:4 For the arrows of the Almighty are within me, the poison whereof drinketh up my spirit: the terrors of God (eloah) do set themselves in array against me.(KJV)

    What is interesting with this poetry passage in Job, it is an analogy of Jesus' suffering.The whole of chapter 6 in Job is worth reading about how our Saviour suffered in Gethsemane.

    There are some SDA persons who think Jesus is the Almighty based on this verse:

  • Re 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
  • 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
  • 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord (Jesus-YHWH), which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

    If you read this passage translated into English using English style, you might assume Jesus is the Almighty. But we can't do this because Revelation was orginally written in Hebrew following Hebrew style...The functional descriptors here belong to a community "Elohiym", and written in "block logic", the functional aspects are written first, Jesus who is our foundational Lord, the "He who exists", the YHWH in the OT, comes foremost in the community of Elohiym, in which both the Father and Shadday are also mentioned.

    To ascertain this view, we turn to our Hebrew to English translator: the SOP:

    There is no one who can explain the mystery of the incarnation of Christ. Yet we know that He came to this earth and lived as a man among men. The man Christ Jesus was not the Lord (Father-YHWH) God (Elohiym) Almighty (Shadday), yet Christ and the Father are one. (The SDA Bible Commentary, Ellen G. White Comments, vol. 5, p. 1129, 1130).

    Here the SOP again does not write English in English style, but Hebrew in English. The word "one" here is not English meaning "singular numerical one" but the Hebrew word "echad" in English, meaning "united as one".

    And this SOP, which includes Revelation 1:8:-

    In our warfare we have Christ's promise, "He that loveth Me shall be loved of My Father, and I will love him, and will manifest Myself to him." He manifested Himself to John, who had been banished by his persecutors to the lonely isle of Patmos. But there He who rules the earth and keeps the waters in their appointed channel, manifested Himself to John. "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" (Rev. 1:9-11): "the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord , which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (verse 8). Christ manifested Himself to Peter, and delivered him from prison by the hand of an angel. He manifested himself to Stephen, and he, "being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, and said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God" (Acts 7:55). White Estate Source "A sermon by Ellen G. White delivered atArmadale, Australia, November 1895"

    Notice the community way the SOP arranges the Bible verses, including the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Shadday), but the functional strong point of this passage block is Jesus, our Saviour.

    Back to the suffering of Jesus in Gethesame:-

    Job 6:9 Even that it would please God (Eloah) "The Father" to destroy me; that he would let loose his hand, and cut me off!

    Get some idea of Jesus' suffering from separation of His heavenly Father?

  • Job 6:11 What is my strength, that I should hope? and what is mine end, that I should prolong my life (nephesh) "living energy"?
  • 12 Is my strength the strength of stones? or is my flesh of brass?
  • 13 Is not my help (ezrah) "helpmate" in me? and is wisdom drive n quite from me?
  • 14 To him that is afflicted pity should be shewed from his friend; but he forsaketh the fear of the Almighty (Shadday) "Holy Spirit".

    This passage is also profound and tells us insights into Jesus suffering in Gethesame. Some false theories of faith claim the Holy Spirit is never mentioned , nor suffered with Her Son, but notice the "friend" administrating the breath of life, the "living energy" within me, referenced by the Hebrew word "ezrah" or "helpmate", Jesus fears to be forsaken by the Shadday, the Holy Spirit as well.

    Consider this reference to "helpmate" in this passage of Jesus' suffering at Gethesame and later on the Cross:-

  • Ps 22:1 My God (el) "My Father" , my God (el) "My Mother", why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
  • 2 O my God(Elohiym) "Family of GOD", I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
  • 3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.
  • 4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them.
  • 5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded.
  • 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
  • 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying,
  • 8 He trusted on the LORD (Father-YHWH) that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
  • 9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.
  • 10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God (el) "Strong Authority" from my mother's belly.
  • 11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
  • 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
  • 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
  • 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
  • 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death.
  • 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
  • 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
  • 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
  • 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD (Father-YHWH): O my strength, haste thee to help (ezrah) "helpmate" me.

    This passage written in community language using God(Elohiym) "Family of GOD", includes specifc references in poetry similes, to the Father and the help mate, a reference to the Holy Spirit.Notice from Job 6, this power administrates the breath of life, living within Jesus, with poetry overtones of "mother" and "womb", showing the Holy Spirit, or Shadday, expresses "Femaleness-love".

    Ps 38:22 Make haste to help (ezrah) me, O Lord (Adonay) my salvation (Yeshua).(KJV)

    What is profound here, our Lord Adonay Jesus is also our helpmate.

    The pictograph for this Hebrew word translated "salvation" (Strong's 8668) reads: "From the Cross secure and pressed down, the Saviour sees...Behold the Being!"

    Ps 40:17 But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord (Adonay-Jesus) thinketh upon me: thou art my help (ezrah) "helpmate" and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God (Elohiym).(KJV)

    In this Holy Writing, the Lord Adonay Jesus is again our helpmate, but is referenced back to the community word "Elohiym"

    And finally Jesus laments taking upon Himself our missing, that He should end His life in the grave, that the separation from the Father might be eternal..

  • Job 7:19 How long wilt thou not depart from me, nor let me alone till I swallow down my spittle?
  • 20 I have sinned (chata) "missed"; what shall I do unto thee, O thou preserver of men? why hast thou set me as a mark against thee, so that I am a burden to myself?
  • 21 And why dost thou not pardon my transgression, and take away mine iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust; and thou shalt seek me in the morning, but I shall not be.(KJV)

    Interesting isn't it? How our Saviour suffered in Gethesame, and how thinking of His suffering for us, should make us forever by grateful for the infinite cost of His Sacrifice for us.

    Where did this reference to Job as a poetry analogy of Jesus in Gethesame come from? From little hints given to us by Jesus written in His SOP, the Hebrew to English translation.

  • Be amazed !

    Be encouraged to read the Poetry in our Bible with many layers of meaning, look for the poetry pictures like seeking diamonds in the common earth, and rejoice in Jesus our Saviour ! Shalom

    The next chapter of Desire of Ages..we look at Before Annas and the Court of Caiaphas

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