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Summary Jesus Christ is LORD of LORDS

7. Proving Jesus is LORD of LORDS

(1) The Rock that followed them

Let us consider evidence that is hidden from mainstream faiths on the Internet.

  • 1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock (petra) that followed them: and that Rock (petra) was Christ.

    The Hebrew equivalent for rock, is not possible, so consider the cross references as a whole.

  • Ex 17:6 Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock (tsuwr) in Horeb;
  • Nu 20:11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock(cela) twice:
  • Ps 105:41 He opened the rock (tsuwr), and the waters gushed out;

    Notice there are TWO rocks that followed them...the 'tsuwr' rock is a symbol of the Father and the 'cela' rock is a symbol of Jesus. ( The German Bible translation by Luther has 'Fel' or 'Felsen' for rock, he does not understand different rocks in Hebrew)

    Notice the verse in the New Testament says the 'rock' followed them...this is a literal saying, although it is a poetry picture of similes and symbols. Let's see how the "cela" rock of Jesus followed them...

  • Nu 20:8 ... and speak ye unto the 'cela' rock...

  • Nu 20:10 .. must we fetch you water out of this 'cela' rock?

  • Nu 20:11 And Moses .. smote the 'cela' rock twice:

  • 2Sa 22:2 And he said, The LORD (Jesus-YHWH) is my 'cela' rock,

  • Ne 9:15 And gavest them bread from heaven .., and .. water .. out of the 'cela' rock ..

  • Ps 18:2 The LORD (Jesus-YHWH) is my 'cela' rock,

  • Ps 78:16 He brought streams also out of the 'cela' rock, ...

  • Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD (Jesus-YHWH); and like a hammer that breaketh the 'cela' rock in pieces?

  • Eze 26:14 And I will make thee like the top of a 'cela' rock: .., saith the Lord (Adonay Jesus) GOD (YHWH).

    So does a literal rock follow Israel during the Exodus? Yes.. Some humans rise to a 'cela' high, so this rock is a symbol of pride, because such humans oppose Christ. For those who submit and become humbled by the 'cela' rock, the rock becomes a symbol of meekness and Jesus who saves them. Indeed the Jesus Cela rock of Ages did followed them literally.. It is not a poetic figurative picture as some theories of faith say in order to downgrade the divinity of Christ.

    (2) The Saraph that followed them

    Paul speaks of yet another symbol of Jesus Christ, the bronze serpent on a pole (cross) that followed them.

    His writing implies as we tempt Jesus in the New Testament, it was Jesus they tempted in the Old Testament.

  • 1Co 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.

  • Nu 21:8 And the LORD (Jesus-YHWH) said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent (saraph) and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.
  • (The German Bible does not consider 'saraph' , Luther uses instead 'Schlange' which means 'snake/serpent')

    Jesus-YHWH tells Moses to make a copper 'saraph' Strong's 8314. A firey "angelic" serpent whose venom burns.

    But Moses makes something else....

  • Nu 21:9 And Moses made a serpent (nachash) of copper (n@chosheth), and put it upon a pole,

    The serpent 'nachash' Moses makes is an image of a 'saraph' as I am led to believe. Notice the verses that use 'saraph'.

  • Isa 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord (Adonay Jesus) sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
  • 2 Above it stood the seraphims (saraph): each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.
  • 3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD (Jesus-YHWH) of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

    These 'saraph' are strange creatures, they fly, and look like angels, perhaps a taste of what Lucifer was originally...these creatures are symbols of Jesus-YHWH shields around His throne in His temple.. And these 'saraph' say holy holy holy unto the Lord Adonay of hosts, Jesus.

  • Isa 6:6 Then flew one of the seraphims (seraph) unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar:
  • ( Strange, German has 'Seraphim' for 'saraph' but Luther fails to use this word consistently.)
  • 7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.
  • 8 Also I heard the voice of the Lord, (Lord Adonay Jesus) saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

    What a strange symbol to prove Jesus is Lord Adonay YHWH, with a throne in His temple in heaven, with a army host of angels surrounding Him, and special angel creatures, who are similes of firey serpents called 'seraph' , a symbol of Jesus on the Cross, because He opposes a special 'seraph' called Lucifer or the Devil, who was orginally a keeper around the thrones of GOD.

    There are many verses that speak of the 'malak of YHWH', which is translated 'angel of YHWH', and strangely enough while this refers to a 'messenger of YHWH', there is a literal image to the phrase. It seems indeed Lord Adonay YHWH looked probably much like a 'saraph' as much as Lucifer might have, not as angels with wings as we picture them, but something like this, for we see things darkly, and GOD is far beyond us. It is interesting Moses did not make a 'saraph' on a pole, but chose to make a snake 'nachash' instead. These poetry pictures are really interesting reading in Scripture. It is just yet more proof that Jesus in the OLD Testament, has His own throne, His own temple and His own armies of angels, and was known as the LORD Adonay YHWH.

    Some critics might argue this is a reference to the Father and his angels, the Father of hosts...so Jesus His Son never had an army of angelic hosts, nor a throne on His own... Well why have an angelic serpent image upon a pole for those sinning to look and live; and this symbol is obviously Jesus on the Cross not a Father? Why do we have in Revelation, Jesus and his army of angels opposing Lucifer and His angels, both Beings are simile pictures of 'saraph'?

    Re 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    The Hebrew word 'michael' is an action that means 'who is like Elohiym', in other words whose heavenly powers of Elohiym flow... Would a heavenly angel fit this description of active power? no...angels do not use Elohiym powers, only members of Elohiym do.

  • Da 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
  • Da 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
  • Da 7:9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit,...
  • Da 7:13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

    Between several chapters of Daniel, there is a sitting down with the Ancient of Days, to assess a kingdom for a great prince, and at the end of Daniel, a standing up to seek His own unto His kingdom. This is hardly an angelic Being, but one who is a simile of 'saraph' like an angel, yes, even the archangel or chief over angels, who is a contrast to Lucifer, they are symbols of 'saraph' except Jesus is not 'saraph', Jesus opposes the Devil as a 'saraph' who sinned from the beginning, perhaps initially around Jesus' throne...

    (3) The Destroyer that followed them

    We do not see Jesus as a Destroyer, but as a simile or symbol, Jesus represented the 'saraph' , those firey serpents, and they could fly like how we perceive angels to be. Thus our picture of Lord Adonay Jesus in the Old Testament, is similar to a flying angel...these pictures reflect functions rather than descriptions of shape or form.

  • 1Co 10:10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.

    Notice these cross references into the Old Testament:-

  • 1Ch 21:15 And God (Elohiym) sent an angel (Malak) unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD (YHWH) beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel (Malak) that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel (Malak) of the LORD (YHWH) stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.
  • 1Ch 21:16 And David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel (Malak) of the LORD (YHWH) stand between the earth and the heaven,

    Now Paul quotes verses like this as symbols of Jesus in the New Testament, as a destroyer...Satan is truly the one who destroys the earth, so this is a direct contrast..

  • 1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

    Note Satan inspires David to make this kingdom sin, Satan is the true destroyer

    How appropriate for Jesus to be in direct contrast with Satan, and referenced by Paul, as the Saviour in the Old Testament and New Testament.

    (4) ..even more information..

    (a) Those who want even more information can see many pages of the author emailing a friendly critic, who says there is only ONE heavenly Being in heaven in the Old Testament times, Father-YHWH only.

    See studies of : did Jesus pre-exist?

    You will allow three obscure, out of the ordinary verses to override the preponderance of the evidence that favors a singular Elohim? I will not put any weight on those verses until the Holy Spirit reveals to me why those three verbs are plural."

    The above critic comment shows why differences in theories of faith exist. Do we allow ourselves to pick and choose the verses we want to suit our theories of faith ? Or should we insist EVERY Scripture verse, ALL hundreds of them, including the oddites, must be all in harmony ? That is a stronger theory of faith. I would recommend anybody wanting a deeper theory of faith, to click on the above link, a dialogue with my friend as a critic and the author. In other words, we thoroughly test the Scriptures.

    (b) There are some critics who make John 1:1 into some strange concept that the Father's words were in the beginning and became flesh with a human Son, the Father empowered as Yeshua... Consider that the Jews had strange customs. John was a Jew, and He wrote John in Hebrew, to Jews, who understood Hebrew. The term is not 'logus' but either 'dabar' or 'memra', a strange Jewish custom, that the 'memra' is a Personal Agent of Creation, Redemption and Comunication. What is certain about 'dabar', the WORD, is John makes a bold assertion that Jesus is the WORD, in person, the Agent of Creation and communication for His Father.

    See studies of JESUS as the WORD (dabar) here.

    (c) Here is another look at the Old Testament looking for examples there is more than one member in the heavenly Elohiym.

    See studies there are two or three Divine Beings in Elohiym.

    (d) Finally a look at the spiritual significance of "Jesus is YHWH of my life", verses what happens to your spiritual life if Jesus is just an empowered Master of your life.

    See studies of Jesus is YHWH of your life..

    Summary

    We have looked at only some of the many examples where one can show Lord Adonay Jesus is the same Being in the Old Testament as well as in the New Testament. We will one day bow to the Lord of Lords and say "'Lo' have waited for Him, our Lord"

    I pray you will come into a saving relationship with the Lord Adonay Jesus YHWH, who is willing to save you via His Father's heavenly Elohiym power, which comes from Jesus to sinners via the personal agency of the Holy Spirit. Shalom

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