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Father's love and Jesus' love

(181) Joh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father (elowahh) is the husbandman.

I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman..

(182) Joh 15:8 Herein is my Father (elowahh) glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

Herein is my Father glorified

(183) Joh 15:9 As the Father (elowahh) hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.

As the Father hath maleness-loved me..

(184) Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father (elowahh) 's commandments, and abide in his love.

.. even as I have kept my Father's commandments..

If we are Jesus disciples we will keep both Jesus comamndments of love and our Father's commandments of love.

How are these TWO sources of LOVE reconciled as commandments ?

Pr 6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

And translated for our readers..

Pr 6:23 For the Father's ten-commandment's are a lamp; and the Son's torah teachings is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:

You find the Holy Spirit channels function through seven spirits and seven fires, as the firey stones of the mountain of GOD the Father. The ten commandments were written by the finger of GOD on tables of stone.

Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub (Lucifer) that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (the Father's kingdom); thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire(the Father's crystal stones of commandments recording His laws attitudes of love).

Re 4:5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. (all symbols of Holy Spirit powers)

Notice Jesus is called the testimony...

Ex 25:16 And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony which I shall give thee.

The testimony placed in the ark were two tables of stones, the ten arrangment of words known as the ten commandements of the Father's attitudes of His love principles. This the testimony is a witness.

Ps 19:7 � The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Here in this parallel the testimony (ten commandments) are similes of Jesus torah teachings of salvation.

Many people find living in Jesus under New Testament conditions the torah teachings of the Old Testament no longer apply and we live under the torah teachings of the New Testament. How does this claim stack up against Scripture ?

Many people admonish the Father's testimony of the ten commandments as valid to Christians today except for the fourth commandment to Remember the Sabbath (seventh day since Creation Weekly cycles of seven).

One can see how the Torah Teachings of Jesus written and handed to Moses can come under attack since supposedly Jesus made changes to His torah in the New Testament. But the Fathers's ten commandments have never been changed by Jesus in OT or NT times. How do modern so called Christian churches explain this fact ?

The Hebrew word "testimony" means "witness" and while Jesus torah and the Father's laws are similes of each other, they were always thought as two witnesses of each other, NOT one system of law. When Jesus died on the Cross some of His torah teaching systems of salvation changed, especially the teachings for animal sacrifice for sin-offering for those making salvation through sin-offering. We no longer require a lamb for our sinning, as Jesus paid the human sacrifice GOD requires for sinning.

If you carefully study Jesus torah, His witnessing has never changed from OT times or from His arrival in living witness in NT times. Jesus lived and breathed His torah from OT times. The disciples wrote down this witness quoting OT verses, and making the witness recorded for us as an example of the proper way to living under torah as found in OT books, and shown as a living example by Jesus in NT times. Both OT and NT torah have harmony across OT times and NT times.

Why then do Church assemblies have their Bible traditions wrong ?

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

An anti-christ power would think it OK to change set times and torah laws to suit themselves. There are plenty of set time laws in torah of Jesus and Father's laws. Such churches change the set times for feasts to Jesus saving us with Easter and Christmas feasts which are not part of Bible feast teaching. The Father's set times in Sabbath has also been changed from the seventh day to the first day.

(185) Joh 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father (elowahh) I have made known unto you.

.. but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father

(186) Joh 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father (elowahh) in my name, he may give it you.

.. that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name

(187) Joh 15:23 He that hateth me hateth my Father (elowahh) also.

He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

(188) Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father (elowahh) .

.. but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father .

(189) Joh 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father (elowahh) , [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father (elowahh) , he shall testify of me:

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father

Notice Jesus is speaking of sending another Being from the Father, implies that another Being is close to the Father. The Holy Spirit and the Father are similes of two parents looking over the children of mankind wanting them as children to join their one and only Son Jesus, and since Jesus has the same earthly body as mankind does, to join with their Son as children of GOD, children of elohiym.

(190) Joh 16:3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father (elowahh) , nor me.

..because they have not known the Father , nor me.

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