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Jesus on the Cross, third coming of Jesus, death defined, master or Lord Jesus?, Jesus in agony, atoms shiver

Q71: 78. Calvary

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(1) Jesus on the Cross..

Jesus, suffering and dying, heard every word as the priests declared, "He saved others; Himself He cannot save. Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe." Christ could have come down from the cross. But it is because He would not save Himself that the sinner has hope of pardon and favor with God.

Lu 23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.

Jesus could not save Himself and other sinners at the same time simultaneously, His soul had to be separated permanently from Elohiym, for this is the true end of a broken relationship.

Jesus allowed Ron Wyatt to discover the actual site where Jesus was crucified. There were three notches carved into the cliff face, the place of the skull, where Jesus' cross was placed.

Notice the three languages of the three signs:

Lu 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.

There is no mention of Aramaic, only Hebrew listed last, because the common people spoke Hebrew.

(2) Jesus saves a dying thief..

The conviction comes back to him that this is the Christ. Turning to his fellow criminal he says, "Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?" The dying thieves have no longer anything to fear from man.

The Holy Spirit illuminates his mind, and little by little the chain of evidence is joined together. In Jesus, bruised, mocked, and hanging upon the cross, he sees the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world. Hope is mingled with anguish in his voice as the helpless, dying soul casts himself upon a dying Saviour. " Lord, remember me," he cries, "when Thou comest into Thy kingdom."

Lu 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord (Greek kurios) , remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

Sadly because of translation, we do not know which Hebrew word was used here "adown" or "Adonay" or "YHWH" and the Greek word "kurios" implies all three Hebrew words mean the same thing, and they are right... Adown means "Lord" as does Adonay mean "Lord" and YHWH the "He who exists" also means "Lord" in English.

See Greek words translated as "master":-

Lu 6:40 The disciple (mathetes) is not above his master(didaskalos): but every one that is perfect shall be as his master (didaskalos).

The context of "didaskalos" and "mathetes" suggests "teacher" and his "pupil" or "disciple".

Lu 6:40 The disciple (mathetes) is not above his Teacher (didaskalos): but every one that is complete shall be as his Teacher (didaskalos).

Joh 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi(Rab), we know that thou art a teacher (didaskalos) come from God: (KJV)

Here we see "didaskalos" translated correctly with a Hebrew word written with the Greek verse: "rabbi", the Hebrew spelling "rab" has three meanings, one of which is the "Master", the pictographs show "head of the home", meaning one with aundant authority in the family home.

Mt 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master (kathegetes) , even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

This Greek word (kathegetes), is used only twice, so one cannot really know which Hebrew word it represents.

Lu 8:24 And they came to him, and awoke him, saying, Master (epistates), master (epistates), we perish. Then he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water: and they ceased, and there was a calm.

Here we see another Greek word (epistates) meaning Master.

It is used only six times, all in Luke... meaning unknown..?

Ac 27:11 Nevertheless the centurion believed the master(kubernetes) and the owner of the ship,

Here is another different Greek word (kubernetes) 'ship captain" would be more appropriate.

Ro 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master (kurios) he standeth or falleth.

This context is common in the OT and thus "kurios" is the Hebrew word "adown" meaning "Lord", not "master".

Eph 6:9 And, ye masters (kurios), do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master (kurios) also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

Words have to have consistent meanings for every context, unless you're swayed by the false theories of polysemy, that language has multiply meanings depending upon context.

Eph 6:9 And, ye Lords (Adown), do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Lord (Adown or Adonay) also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's (despotes) use, and prepared unto every good work.(KJV)

Finally, here is another different Greek word (despotes) which represents another Hebrew word.

If your interested in how fuzzy translations are, because scholars believe in polysemy, consider this simple study designed for the common man interested in the translation process, considers the Hebrew word "adown"

Translating Adown consistently

(3) Jesus is our foundation Lord

Quickly the answer came. Soft and melodious the tone, full of love, compassion, and power the words: Verily I say unto thee today, Thou shalt be with Me in paradise. While the leading Jews deny Him, and even the disciples doubt His divinity, the poor thief, upon the

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brink of eternity, calls Jesus Lord. Many were ready to call Him Lord when He wrought miracles, and after He had risen from the grave; but none acknowledged Him as He hung dying upon the cross save the penitent thief who was saved at the eleventh hour.

Paradise is a Person, not a place, although Jesus, the person is also building us a place, but the most important thing for a sinner first, is to have the Person.

Notice the SOP agrees that "kurios" is the English word "Lord". Jesus is our foundation lord, as the word "adown" means.

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Lord Adonay YHWH Jesus

(4) Jesus in agony..

Satan with his fierce temptations wrung the heart of Jesus. The Saviour could not see through the portals of the tomb. Hope did not present to Him His coming forth from the grave a conqueror, or tell Him of the Father's acceptance of the sacrifice. He feared that sin was so offensive to God that Their separation was to be eternal. Christ felt the anguish which the sinner will feel when mercy shall no longer plead for the guilty race. It was the sense of sin, bringing the Father's wrath upon Him as man's substitute, that made the cup He drank so bitter, and broke the heart of the Son of God.

Jesus did not see through the portals of the tomb, feared that separation was to be eternal. This is the true meaning of the second death.

Literally the membrane around the heart of Jesus broke from the agony of the Cross, the pain of separation from His Father in heaven.

Never before had the earth witnessed such a scene. The multitude stood paralyzed, and with bated breath gazed upon the Saviour. Again darkness settled upon the earth, and a hoarse rumbling, like heavy thunder, was heard. There was a violent earthquake. The people were shaken together in heaps. The wildest confusion and consternation ensued. In the surrounding mountains, rocks were rent asunder, and went crashing down into the plains. Sepulchers were broken open, and the dead were cast out of their tombs. Creation seemed to be shivering to atoms. Priests, rulers, soldiers, executioners, and people, mute with terror, lay prostrate upon the ground.

How profound this SOP statement is...The atoms shiver as the foundation Lord of atomic existence lays down His "Father's breath of living".

Notice the Third Coming of Jesus:

Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

During the Second Coming of Jesus to earth, His feet never touch the ground....

During the Third Coming of Jesus to earth, His feet touches the ground....

The Holy Writings never speak of a fourth Coming of Jesus to earth, only three.

Beware of the false Christ as Satan coming to earth, touches the earth and does miracles to deceive many.

Notice the atoms shiver when our Maker withdraws His "power of Creation" from the earth:

Zec 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Why the King James translation calls this a "plague", I don't know. The Hebrew word is "maggephah", Strong's 4046, and Jeff Benner's English translation is "striking" not "plague" is a better idea, the pictograph meaning is "Flowing over the nations of people is the walking mouth of the Being! Behold the Person!" and suggests very strongly a striking of Jesus flows over the wicked, and the very atoms shiver, and the flesh literally falls from their faces to the ground.

This is not some agony firey death, but a much kinder end to the wicked who seek eternal separation from Jesus, their foundation Lord.

Re 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heave n, and devoured them

In the latter teachings, the end speaks of a "fire coming down from heaven" and the "lake of fire and brimstone", how do we reconcile these latter pictures of the end?

In Zec 14:4, Jesus touches the earth, splits a valley and the New Zion comes down from heaven to earth.

In Rev 20:9, this same city is mentioned, but fire comes down from heaven after the wicked encompass the city of Zion.

The fire that comes down from heaven is a "Person". In the OT Jesus is referenced as "saraph" which means in Hebrew "burning" as a simile of fire.

Nu 21:8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent "saraph", and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

Jesus is a simile of "burning" set upon a pole, and all who support Him are saved. But those who don't are burned by His burning.

God is a place of eternal burning, and all the saints who live there are fire proof, but the wicked outside the city burn because of God's presence.

Isa 30:27 Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

  • 28 And his breath (ruwach) , as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck...

    Jesus comes as a burning, and the Holy Spirit becomes the Destroyer of those who are not fire proof.

    It is important when studying the Holy Writings, we study the former teachings and the latter teachings, and consider the words in Hebrew across both the OT and NT, as they were orginally written, allow Sola Scriptora to tell us, not the traditions and precepts of men.

    As an additional note; there is a literal fire of brimstone as an OT simile of Sodom's destruction, this literal fire burns the earth into magma, to cleanse all elements into their primordial form ready for a brand new creation of earth.

    Re 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

    Please enjoy reading the Holy Writings, and study them as the witness here in Spiritual Springs. Shalom

    The next chapter of Desire of Ages..we look at "It is Finished"

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