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why are virgins disfellowshipped in church for doing sex before marriage?, traditions,

Q35: 42. Tradition

Show the Desire of Ages is inspired..

(1) Virgins who do sex before marriage are disfellowshipped .. Why?

As before, the ground of complaint was His disregard of the traditional precepts that encumbered thelaw of God. These were professedly designed to guard the observance of the law, but they wereregarded as more sacred than the law itself. When they came in collision with the commandmentsgiven from Sinai, preference was given to the rabbinical precepts.

Sadly the Seventh Day Adventist church also has traditions that overpower the torah teachings in the Holy Writings.

One example, if virgins who have sex before being properly married are disfellowshipped...thus the church causes the couples in the church to leave the church in bitterness.

Is this disfellowship founded in the torah teachings? NO !

Ex 20:14 No adultery.

Some Adventists misjudge how to use this direction in the ten commandments. Notice what Jesus said in His judgements:-

Ex 22:16 And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.

Notice the case is a shameful marriage case, but the two virgin couples are not stoned or disfellowshipped, they are to be considered married, and blessed by the families responsible to the two couples.

Wow ! Is this truley found in the torah teachings ? Yes...these teachings are actually judgements on how the ten commandment teachings are to be undertaken...

Sadly most Adventist churches consider huge chunks of the torah teachings was somehow nailed to the cross and no longer applicable to our salvation...

Why do we consider parts of the torah teachings abolished ? I don't know...

Ex 21:1 Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.

These are judgements....Judgements of what ? How to intepret the "Ten commandment arrangements of words"... Why would Jesus abolish His judgements?

Mt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.(KJV)

So when Jesus completed all His torah teachings regarding sin-offering for salvation, He abolished huge chunks of His own OT torah teachings? including His judgements in Exodus 21 to 23?

When Jesus died as our sin-offering sacrifice on the cross, some aspects of sin-offering as a process was changed...but not abolished...

If Jesus wrote his torah teachings for salvation, why would Jesus later abolish huge chunks of His own torah teachings? Makes no sense...in fact it makes Jesus not very smart...seeing He can see into the future...would it be smarter to write torah teachings that are words forever and as types and symbols of His salvation system, contain parts that are replaced by other parts, thus He preserves His salvation system as a whole ?

The Author considers Jesus torah teachings to be preserved from the OT right through into the NT... all thousands of guidelines are preserved for us, to help us walk as Jesus walked..

For more see Torah Teachings

(2) Why Jesus died..

Ex 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

Again only in the judgements, does Jesus tell us why He died for sin-offering.. there is a major clue given here...regarding the fruit of the woman in pregancy, if mischief happens and the child dies, one gives life for life.

For more see a profound revelation about this verse.

(3) Why Jesus asks for love-feasts..

Ex 23:14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year.

Sadly our church says the love feasts of Jesus are abolished when He died on the cross...but this is a judgement on how the "ten arrangments of words" are interpreted...

Why do we have love feasts for Jesus, if the Ten commandments of the Father are for those without missing or sin in their lives ?

Obviously Jesus is a witness to His Father's torah teachings and specifically Jesus deals with missing or sinning... and thus the love feasts of Jesus are a way of us showing appreciation for our restoration back to our heavenly Father without missing.

Does the ten commandments really show this ? Yes.... where ?

Ex 20:2 I am the LORD thy God(Elohiym) , which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house o f bondage.

  • 3 Thou shalt have no other gods (elohiym) before me.
  • Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.(KJV)

    So the love of the Father and His commandments has to be the Ten commandments about the Father's love.

    Ho 13:4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

    Do we suppose our Father is our Saviour ? and came down from heaven to die as a sin-offering ?

    No that didn't happen, so whom is the saviour here ?

    Ho 1:2 The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea. And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD.

    The Father is allowing His Son Yashua to come down to earth and marry those departing from YHWH, those sinning, those found missing relationship with the Father.

    This scroll of salvation is incorrectly spelled with poor spelling is actually the scroll of Yeshua or the book of Jesus, that talks about salvation through Jesus.

    Thus we have two Strong Authorities speaking the Ten Comamndments, the Father's words for those not sinning, and the Son's judgements for those who do sinning.

    Both directions have the same end goal, to help those found missing to be found completed in a relationship to our heavenly Father.

    This is why Jesus speaks of the love feasts in His judgements, because there are memorials for us to remember Jesus saving us for eternity.

    See the SOP speak about love feasts.

    (4) Tradition rather than Torah..

    The substitution of the precepts of men for the commandments of God has not ceased. Even amongChristians are found institutions and usages that have no better foundation than the traditions of thefathers. Such institutions, resting upon mere human authority, have supplanted those of divineappointment. Men cling to their traditions, and revere their customs, and cherish hatred against thosewho seek to show them their error.

    Man in our church love traditions rather than listen to the torah teachings of the Holy Writings.

    The next chapter of Desire of Ages..we look at Barriers Broken Down

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