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Why Jesus died, looking at Seventh Day Adventist Ellen White comments

Q2: Seeking Salvation : Why Jesus died?

This study uses the Ellen White messages found online.

We will ask the egwwritings.org, why Jesus died for us?

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Christ and him crucified, his love and infinite sacrifice-showing that the reason why Christ died is because the law of God is immutable, unchangeable, eternal. (The Southern Work, page 70)

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This is a good start. The teachings of GOD are unable to be added to, deleted or changed, not even by GOD Himself.

This is brought out by an SDA scholar:

Could you explain the meaning of the law that requires "life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand" (Ex. 21:23, 24)?

by Angel Manuel Rodriguez:-

History of the legislation. The lex talionis is found in three passages in the Old Testament (Ex. 21:23, 24; Lev. 24:19, 20; and Deut. 19:21). A similar law is found in the ancient Mesopotamian code of Hammurabi. The intent of the law of retribution was to ensure that the punishment corresponded to the crime in order to control the punishment inflicted on the guilty one. In Matthew 5:38-42 Jesus was not abrogating this important legal principle, but was rather inviting Christians in their daily lives to go beyond the letter of the law.

The implicit intention of the law - to eliminate personal revenge - was stated explicitly by Jesus; and He, in His own person and ministry, modeled it for us.

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Thus the ancient Mesopotamian code of Hammurabi could never be changed or altered, is a reflection of GOD's laws that cannot be changed, or altered either. Such laws of GOD are written in stone so to speak, as permanent codes of love.

Ex 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. (KJV)

Hence GOD's law cannot ever be changed. This includes nailing them to the Cross of Jesus, as some claim.

If such laws could be changed by the sinless death of Jesus, why couldn't the laws be changed before Jesus died? Why have laws anyhow? The laws tell us that the personality and behaviour of GOD is logical, predictable and trustworthy. So GOD follows implicitly His own laws of love, never changing them is important for a stable eternal universe.

Scripture talks about a special word "yada" which is often translated as "know" but also means to be "intimate". You cannot have a relationship with Jesus, unless you "know" Him, and this implies "knowledge" but the "knowledge" is not "knowing about" Jesus, but "intimately supporting Jesus with His words". Does the reader catch why we have to memorize His words and pray them daily as we walk through our lives? This is what "support means". From eternity there have always been proposed two methods of living with the Father. One method of living is to exactly live in His love doing as the ten arrangements of words about love say, with 100% precision.

Ex 24:7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient.

Humans cannot be saved by doing the Father's Ten Commandments precisely because we miss daily doing them.

Jesus came born under law to redeem those un der law, and offered a different way of following the Father's Ten Commandments of loving, using a different way of living based on supporting Jesus.

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

Ga 3:12 And the law is not of faith (emanuh) "support": but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Jesus had to do both of these ways of living, He followed His Father's commandments precisely without sinning, and supported His Father's words, so you can be saved by Jesus supporting His Father's words, personified in Jesus as the WORD that became flesh for us. Since "support" is so much easier for sinners to do, we can support Jesus more or less with our love, and Jesus will respond kindly to us. We may even be snatch as a firebrand from the fire as babes in Christ.

Zec 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?(KJV)

The Father's laws of loving (the ten commandments) were not abolished in Jesus when He died upon the Cross. We follow and obey the Father's commandments via Jesus. We support Jesus and His words, and Jesus power flows through us, as we speak in pray the prayer promises of power, thus we follow the Father's commandments of loving via Jesus working in me, as we support Jesus.

When the sinner comes, and looks at the cross, he says, Oh, it was there that Jesus died for me. He did not die for me because I was righteous, but because I was a sinner, that He might impute unto me His righteousness, that He might take away my sin. Then should not we be the happiest people in all the earth? I want to know why we do not hear the song of triumph and praise from human lips I want to know why there is not a volume of ascending to God.

Do you think that you eat His flesh and drink His blood? He says, My flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. And when the disciples were offended because they could not understand it, He said, It is my word; that is spirit and that is life. [John 6:55, 63.] Then take the Word and eat it, and assimilate it, and digest it; take it, make it your own; it is your meat and your drink. (Ms 10, 1891 (August 2, 1891) par. 22 )

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What Jesus did by dying for us, should move us to tears of gratitude. Notice the SOP says only through the "eating the word" and "drinking the spirit", do we experience salvation in Jesus. The eating his flesh and drinking his blood are literal similes of Jesus, according to the SOP, but spiritually understood.

So salvation involves Jesus and the Holy Spirit, who administrates our spirit or character in us from Jesus.

The Father gave us the law, and the Son died to magnify it and make it honorable. (Sermons and Talks, vol. 1, Page 21)SOURCE

Again the laws of the Father are honourable and magnified by Jesus. Why Jesus died should be written in the Father's laws, the arrangement of ten wordings, written by the finger of Elohiym. (in English we would term them the ten commandments).

Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. (KJV)

Here is the Father's laws concerning life. The opposite of life is to kill.

The Hebrew word "ratsach" Strong's 7523 has pictographs which read " The Head travels outside".

There are other words with patterns of pictographs similar to "ratsach".

The Hebrew word "ruwach" Strong's 7307 has pictographs which read "The Head secure outside". The Head secure outside, is a picture of the "wind of Elohiym" that is administrated personally by the Holy Spirit.

The Hebrew word "Ratsach" has two forms spelt exactly the same with letters, the verb and noun form so both of these actions have to have similar meanings. Jeff Benners suggests the verb form is "murder" and the noun form is "wound". The Author sees the verb form as "wounding" and the noun form as "wounded".

Let's have a look at some contexts:

The verb form first:-

Ex 20:13 No wounding. (Ancient Hebrew)

Nu 35:6 And among the cities which ye shall give unto the Levites there shall be six cities for refuge, which ye shall appoint for the manslayer, that he may flee thither: and to them ye shall add forty and two cities. (KJV)

Nu 35:6 And among the cities which ye shall give unto the Levites there shall be six cities for refuge, which ye shall appoint for "wounding", that he may flee thither: and to them ye shall add forty and two cities. (Ancient Hebrew)

The KJV tries to use the meaning as a noun, when its a verb. These cities of refuge where intended for non lethal woundings done on people, that friends may angrily seek some revenge. Wounding a person so he died, is a different matter.

Ho 4:2 By swearing, and lying, and killing (ratsach) "wounding" , and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood. 3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away. 4 Yet let no man strive, nor reprove another: for thy people are as they that strive with the priest. 5 Therefore shalt thou fall in the day, and the prophet also shall fall with thee in the night, and I will destroy thy mother. 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. (KJV)

In the Book of Jesus in the OT, are listed some of the ten commandments people transgress, including wounding people. The poetry pictures show the whole land mourns. A simile of "mother earth" from which we were made. I will destroy your mother, is another poetry simile, refering to the "beloved city of Zion" as well as personally, the administrating responding of the Holy Spirit, who is portrayed as with "mother functions". The Holy Spirit teaches children the law of GOD, but people forget the laws of GOD. See Proverbs 1:8.

The noun form finally:-

Ps 42:10 As with a sword (ratsach) "wounds" (noun form) in my bones, mine enemies reproach me; while they say daily unto me, Where is thy God? 11 Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted within me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my countenance, and my God. (KJV)

.... The wounds in our bones, from mockers who mock, or from the consequences of Adam's first sin that caused wounding into the DNA fabric of living, if left alone we all eventually die.

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" [Mark 15:34.] The wrath of God fell upon Christ. This was the hiding of the Father's countenance. Though innocent, Christ was treated as a sinner, that through His merits sinners, though guilty, might be treated as the loyal and obedient children of God. Christ died with the sins of the world imputed to Him, that His righteousness might be imputed to the sinner. (Ms 106, 1897)

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Notice the awful separation of the Father from His Son, on our behalf, causes the death of Jesus.

It was to redeem us that Jesus lived and suffered and died. He became "a Man of Sorrows," that we might be made partakers of everlasting joy. God permitted His beloved Son, full of grace and truth, to come from a world of indescribable glory, to a world marred and blighted with sin, darkened with the shadow of death and the curse. He permitted Him to leave the bosom of His love, the adoration of the angels, to suffer shame, insult, humiliation, hatred, and death. "The chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed." Isaiah 53:5. Behold Him in the wilderness, in Gethsemane, upon the cross! The spotless Son of God took upon Himself the burden of sin. He who had been one with God, felt in His soul the awful separation that sin makes between God and man. This wrung from His lips the anguished cry, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" Matthew 27:46. It was the burden of sin, the sense of its terrible enormity, of its separation of the soul from God -it was this that broke the heart of the Son of God.

Notice Jesus felt the awful separation that sin makes between the Divine Family of GOD and man.

But this great sacrifice was not made in order to create in the Father's heart a love for man, not to make Him willing to save. No, no! "God so loved the world, that He gave His only-begotten Son." John 3:16. The Father loves us, not because of the great propitiation, but He provided the propitiation because He loves us. Christ was the medium through which He could pour out His infinite love upon a fallen world. "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself." 2 Corinthians 5:19. (Steps to Christ, Page 13)

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The separation of the Father and the Holy Spirit from Jesus caused the death of Jesus. (quote) "its separation of the soul from God" (end-quote).

How many know the second death experience is defined as the separation of GOD from relationship? This would cause even matter to cease functioning and existing.

The phrase (Quote) "He could pour out His infinite love upon a fallen world. (End-quote) This says, the sacrifice of Jesus was an infinite sacrifice.

O that the veil could be rent away, and the men now deceived would come to their senses and in meekness and lowliness come to Jesus and confess their sins and be converted. O that they would study the Word so pregnant with divine power, and say with the prophet, "I stood upon my feet, and He spake unto me, and the Spirit entered into m e, when He spake unto me, and set me upon my feet, so that I heard Him that spake unto me." [See Ezekiel 2:2.] (Lt 126, 1906)

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The phrase of both Jesus and the Holy Spirit empowering the flow of salvation from the Father is interesting. Notice the poetry pictures. "study the Word so pregnant with divine power, " refers to the compassion centre of the Holy Spirit, as we grow in the breath of salvation that develops during our second birth experience. Such poetry pictures picture the Holy Spirit with "mother functions", but is also used by Jesus as a "collective mother functioning" over His saved..

Lu 13:34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!(KJV)

Jesus laments because He cannot gather His redeemed as the Holy Spirit gathers her children under her wings, is a poetry picture of both Jesus and the Holy Spirit working out our salvation from the Father in us as children.

Keep before the people the cross of Calvary. Show what caused the death of Christ-the transgression of the law. Let not sin be cloaked or treated as a matter of little consequence. It is to be presented as guilt against the Son of God. Then point the people to Christ, telling them that immortality comes only through receiving Him as their personal Saviour.

Arouse the people to see how far they have departed from the Lord's ordinances by adopting worldly policy and conforming to worldly principles. These have brought them into transgression of God's law. (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 6, Page 54)

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Again the SOP says Jesus died because we have trangressed the laws of GOD.

The Holy Spirit strives to make apparent the claims of God, but men pay heed only for a moment, and turn their minds to other things: Satan catches away the seeds of truth; the gracious influence of the Spirit of God is effectually resisted. Thus many are grieving away the Holy Spirit for the last time, and they know it not.

The words spoken by Christ of Jerusalem are, "Your house is left unto you desolate." What anguish of soul did Jesus feel when all his appeals, his warnings and reproofs, were resisted! At the time he brought them home to the soul, impressions were made; but self-love, self-sufficiency, love of the world, came in and choked the good seed sown. Pride of heart prevented his hearers from humbling themselves before God, and confessing their sin in resisting his Holy Spirit, and reluctantly it left them. On the crest of Olivet, as he beheld the city, he wept over it, saying, "If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace!" Here he paused; he was loth to utter the irrevocable sentence. O that Jerusalem would repent! When the fast westering sun should pass out of sight, her day of mercy would be ended. Jesus closed his sentence, "But now they are hid from thine eyes." On another occasion he lamented the impenitence of the chosen city: "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate." The Lord forbid that this scene should now be repeated in the experience of God's professed people! "My Spirit," he says, "shall not always strive with man." The time will come when it must be said of the impenitent, "Ephraim is joined to his idols; let him alone."

The highlighted colours show Jesus and the Holy Spirit as poetry pictures both involved in our salvation.

Jerusalem is a simile of the gathering of children under the wings of the Holy Spirit, who does motherly functions over the city, as also the Holy Spirit does for the church.

Will the church see where she has fallen? A coldness, hardness of heart, a want of sympathy for the brethren, exists in the church. An absence of love for the erring is manifested. There is a withdrawing from the very ones who need pity and help. A severity, an overbearing spirit, such as existed among the Pharisees, exists in our churches, and especially in those intrusted with sacred responsibilities. They are lifted up in self-esteem and self-assurance. The widow and the fatherless have not their sympathy or their love. This is entirely unlike the spirit of Christ. The Lord looks with displeasure upon the coarse, harsh spirit that has been manifested by some,-a spirit so devoid of sympathy, of tender appreciation of those whom he loves. Brethren, you who close the heart against Christ's suffering ones, remember, that as you deal with them, God will deal with you. When you call, he will not say, "Here I am;" when you cry, he will not answer. Satan is watching, preparing his delusions to ensnare those who are filled with self-importance while they are spiritually destitute.

The church is a simile of the gathering care of the Holy Spirit, who cares for the children of GOD.

The road to paradise is not one of self-exaltation, but of repentance, confession, humiliation, of faith and obedience. The message to the Laodicean Church is appropriate to the church at this time: "And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eye-salve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore and repent." There are many who are priding themselves upon their spiritual riches, their knowledge of the truth, and are living in guilty self-deception. When the members of the church humble themselves before God by zealous, not half-hearted, lifeless action, the Lord will receive them.

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T he SOP is saying the modern Laodicean Church is just the same as the Church in Jerusalem in Jesus time, that refused Him to gather them as the Holy Spirit gathers her children under her wings (Duet 32:11) and (Luke 13:34).

The SOP does not comment on Exodus 21:23, the "life for life" principle and what this means? But can we get from the passages of the SOP, why Jesus died?

Notice this SOP statement, quoted in a fuller context:

God gave a clear and definite knowledge of his will to Israel by especial precepts, showing the duty of man to God and to his fellow-men. The worship due to God was clearly defined. A special system of rites and ceremonies was established, which would secure the remembrance of God among his people, and thereby serve as a hedge to guard and protect the ten commandments from violation.

Where are these "especial precepts"? Exodus 21 to 23, known as "judgements", how to read the "Father's Ten Commandments".

God's people, whom he calls his peculiar treasure, were privileged with a two-fold system of law; the moral and the ceremonial. The one, pointing back to creation to keep in remembrance the living God who made the world, whose claims are binding upon all men in every dispensation, and which will exist through all time and eternity. The other, given because of man's transgression of the moral law, the obedience to which consisted in sacrifices and offerings pointing to the future redemption. Each is clear and distinct from the other. From the creation the moral law was an essential part of God's divine plan, and was as unchangeable as himself. The ceremonial law was to answer a particular purpose of Christ's plan for the salvation of the race. The typical system of sacrifices and offerings was established that through these services the sinner might discern the great offering, Christ. But the Jews were so blinded by pride and sin that but few of them could see farther than the death of beasts as an atonement for sin; and when Christ, whom these offerings prefigured, came, they could not discern him. The ceremonial law was glorious; it was the provision made by Jesus Christ in counsel with his Father, to aid in the salvation of the race. The whole arrangement of the typical system was founded on Christ. Adam saw Christ prefigured in the innocent beast suffering the penalty of his transgression of Jehovah's law.

The two fold system of law in summary:

moral law ceremonial law
Father's laws Jesus' laws
obedience based support based
perfection based grace based
you must do you must support
old covenant new covenant
for the sinless for the sinner
eternal life eternal support
works faith

Jesus obeyed both systems for sinners

Followers saved, support Jesus, who works our Father's salvational laws for us

The law of types reached forward to Christ. All hope and faith centered in Christ until type reached its antitype in his death. The statutes and judgments specifying the duty of man to his fellow-men, were full of important instruction, defining and simplifying the principles of the moral law, for the purpose of increasing religious knowledge, and of preserving God's chosen people distinct and separate from idolatrous nations.

Exodus 21 to 23 are judgments, statutes on how to interpret the moral laws of the F ather.

The statutes concerning marriage, inheritance, and strict justice in deal with one another, were peculiar and contrary to the customs and manners of other nations, and were designed of God to keep his people separate from other nations. The necessity of this to preserve the people of God from becoming like the nations who had not the love and fear of God, is the same in this corrupt age, when the transgression of God's law prevails and idolatry exists to a fearful extent. If ancient Israel needed such security, we need it more, to keep us from being utterly confounded with the transgressors of God's law. The hearts of men are so prone to depart from God that there is a necessity for restraint and discipline.

We need the Exodus 21 to 23 today as Jews did long ago. Detailed ways of reading the Father's laws.

Notice "strict justice in deal with one another" alludes to an important way of reading the Father's law concerning "no wounding" of life.

The love that God bore to man whom he had created in his own image, led him to give his Son to die for man's transgression, and lest the increase of sin should lead him to forget God and the promised redemption, the system of sacrificial offerings was established to typify the perfect offering of the Son of God.

The types the people did under the ceremonial laws of Jesus, was done daily in order to keep alive the infinite sacrifice Jesus would do one day in the future for His children way back than. The poetry types help to remember, why Jesus died for them.

There is a Hebrew word for "sin-offering" a way to remember, why Jesus died. It is "chataah", the "sin-offering", and is a poetry picture of Jesus, who is our "sin-offering".

Christ was the angel appointed of God to go before Moses in the wilderness, conducting the Israelites in their travels to the land of Canaan. Christ gave Moses his special directions to be given to Israel. "Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; and were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; and did all eat the same spiritual meat; and did all drink the same spiritual drink; for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them; and that Rock was Christ."

Jesus was a "burning" like an "angel" that followed them, and helped them in the Father's salvation, personified by the Son.

"In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink." These words were called out by witnessing a representation by the Jews of water flowing from the flinty rock. This commemoration of bringing water from the rock in the wilderness moves the heart of the Son of God to tenderest compassion and pity for their darkened understanding; for they will not see the light which he has brought to them. Christ tells them that he is that rock. I am that living water. Your fathers drank of that spiritual rock that followed them. That rock was myself. It was through Christ alone that the Hebrews were favored with the especial blessings which they were continually receiving, notwithstanding their sinful murmurings and rebellion.

Jesus was a rock that followed them. How can a common noun "cela" a Hebrew word for rock, become a Proper Noun for Jesus? Scripture says it does.

In consequence of continual transgression, the moral law was repeated in awful grandeur from Sinai. Christ gave to Moses religious precepts which were to govern the everyday life. These statutes were explicitly given to guard the ten commandments. They were not shadowy types to pass away with the death of Christ. They were to be bi nding upon man in every age as long as time should last. These commands were enforced by the power of the moral law, and they clearly and definitely explained that law.

Exodus 21 to 23 contains eternal ways to read the Father's ten commandments, which offer salvation to those who do them.

Christ became sin for the fallen race, in taking upon himself the condemnation resting upon the sinner for his transgression of the law of God. Christ stood at the head of the human family as their representative. He had taken upon himself the sins of the world. In the likeness of sinful flesh he condemned sin in the flesh. He recognized the claims of the Jewish law until his death, when type met antitype. In the miracle he performed for the leper, he bade him go to the priests with an offering in accordance with the law of Moses. Thus he sanctioned the law requiring offerings.

So where does it say in the law, why Jesus died? It must be in Exodus 21 to 23 where details are given about the Ten Commandments.

Christians who profess to be Bible students can appreciate more fully than ancient Israel did the full signification of the ceremonial ordinances that they were required to observe. If they are indeed Christians, they are prepared to acknowledge the sacredness and importance of the shadowy types, as they see the accomplishment of the events which they represent. The death of Christ gives the Christian a correct knowledge of the system of ceremonies and explains prophecies which still remain obscure to the Jews. Moses of himself framed no law. Christ, the angel whom God had appointed to go before his chosen people, gave to Moses statutes and requirements necessary to a living religion and to govern the people of God. Christians commit a terrible mistake in calling this law severe and arbitrary, and then contrasting it with the gospel and mission of Christ in his ministry on earth, as though he were in opposition to the just precepts which they call the law of Moses (The Review and Herald May 6, 1875)

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GOD gave to Moses, a simile of Jesus, "statutes and requirements necessary to a living religion ".

And so dear reader, without further ado, let's piece together the mystery of why Jesus died, written by the SOP, but hidden from casual readers.

Ex 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

The context is about men hurting an unborn baby in the womb of a woman married to a husband.Should be unborn baby be wounded, than thou must give your soul for his soul. This implies "eternal life for eternal death".

This explains why the SOP calls the death of Jesus an infinite sacrifice.

If Eve is a proper name in Hebrew meaning "chayah", the "mother of living", whom is Eve a figure of?

The answer is the Holy Spirit, and the word "chayah" is often translated as "quicken" by the KJV, as shown:

Ps 119:25 My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word. 26 I have declared my ways, and thou heardest me: teach me thy statutes.

The Hebrew word "chayah" meaning "quicken" also is related to the word, and the soul. A human being is kept alive by the breath of the Holy Spirit, who empowers the Father's living force in him or her. In a similar way the breath of s alvation flows from the Father, via Jesus and is breathed upon us by the Holy Spirit.

Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (KJV)

1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:(KJV)

The NT says a similar thing. Salvation flows from the Father, via His Son, who offers those who support Jesus, a different way to obey His Father's salvation, which becomes a flow of power known as "quickening" through the Holy Spirit.

For a brief overview of why Jesus died?

Ex 21:22 If (Satan) strive, and hurt (the Holy Spirit) with child, so that her fruit (Adam and Eve) depart from her, if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life.

When Satan tricked Adam and Eve to choose to do missing God's power in their lives, thus internal mischief followed, inherited iniquities came into being, and the penalty for such missing, causing a corruption in our DNA, is eternal death. The only way to satisfy this penalty to to replace eternal death with eternal life, or life for life.

Most religions of faith do not even understand how mankind lives in the first place. The "breath of life" is a empowered continuously via the Holy Spirit, living personally in all living things, in a way I fully do not understand,and this "life force" is a flow of power from the Father, but is administrated by the Holy Spirit as an agency.

The first birth and the second birth both are administrative flows of power via the Holy Spirit.

But some religions of faith say Jesus has a name, the Father has a name, but what is the Holy Spirit's name?

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. (KJV)

Here is a poetry simile, let's write out the Hebrew into English:

Job 33:4

  • The Spirit Strong Authority made me,
  • The breath of the Shadday quickeneth. (Ancient Hebrew)

    Scholars scoff, saying this is a poetry parallel, hence Holy Spirit parallels breath, and Strong Authority parallels Shadday; thus they conclude nothing is idenified here as individual members, but as GOD as a whole.

    The Author sees this as a poetry simile, The Holy Spirit is a Strong Authority who made us... (is a simile like)

    The Shadday quickeneth. The same English word the KJV is used here, but the idea is the Shadday breathes upon those who wish ongoing living, or the breath of salvation.

    The poetry is making similes of the first birth and the second birth. Both are administrated by the Shadday or Holy Spirit.

    Does the SOP agree the Shadday is the Holy Spirit? Yes. The Shadday is mentioned doing something the Father or Jesus, don't do. The Shadday empowers visions.

    See SOP study on Shadday and Holy Spirit

    Nu 24:16 He hath said, which heard the words of God (Elohim), and knew the knowledge of the most High (Father), which saw the vision of the Almighty (Shadday), falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:

    {LS80 233.1} Then Thayer took a heavy, large quarto family Bible which was lying on the table, and seldom used, opened it, and laid it upon Sister Ellen while in vision, as she was then inclined backward against the wall in the corner of the room. Immediately after the Bible was laid upon her, she arose upon her feet, and walked into the middle of the room, with the Bible open in one hand, and lifted as high as she could reach, and w ith her eyes steadily looking upward, declared in a solemn manner, "The inspired testimony from God," or words of the same import. While the Bible was thus extended in one hand, and her eyes looking upwards, and not on the Bible, she continued for a long time, to turn over the leaves with her other hand, and place her finger upon certain passages, and correctly repeat their words with a solemn voice.

    {LS 468.3} "In December, 1844, the Holy Spirit gave her a revelation of the second coming of Christ. In this vision of the future there was given a view of the glorious reward that awaits the redeemed and the terrible fate that will come to all who refuse to serve their Lord and Master.

    Many in the SDA religion of faith, are confused over the personality love expressed by the Holy Spirit, and now publically using the precepts and traditions of men, have made a creed making the Holy Spirit as a "he", whatever that term means. This is why the SOP says "silence is golden", for the church is not ready for correction of studies of the Scriptures in this way. It took 45 years of patience for Ellen White's husband to even accept the Holy Spirit as a person in his day, let alone the personality of the Holy Spirit.

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    The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. People may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but accepting fanciful ideas will not strengthen the church. Regarding mysteries that are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden.

    The Holy Spirit convicts of sin (see John 16:8). The sinner who responds will be brought to repentance and awakened to the importance of obeying God's requirements. To the repentant sinner, the Holy Spirit reveals the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. Christ said, " He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you" (John 14:26).

    The Spirit is given as a regenerating agency, to make real in our lives the salvation our Redeemer's death won for us. The Spirit is constantly working to draw attention to the cross of Calvary, to unfold the love of God, and to open to the convicted heart the precious things of the Scriptures. After He brings conviction of sin, the Holy Spirit withdraws the affections from the things of this earth and fills the soul with a desire for holiness. "He will guide you into all truth" (John 16:13). The Spirit will take the things of God and stamp them on the heart.

    From the beginning, God has been working by His Holy Spirit through human beings.(Unlikely Leaders, Page 20)

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    In a Divine Family community setting, the masculine pronoun "He" is used because the flow of salvation flows from the Father first, than via the Son and than through agency of the Holy Spirit.

    For more see, The Special Spirit

    Next we look at Catholic sources, "why Jesus died?"

    Scripture Salvation theme

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